Fandom stuff!
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fun_like_thatI didn't realise I had quite that many icons. :| It's taken me about two hours to upload, sort, figure out what's request and what isn't, get the icon table thing to work, upload the headers and the wallpaper, add stuff, write stuff.... BUT. I have finally posted icons. *headdesk* If you requested an icon you would have commented on this post. Take a look, claim your icon, check out the others! Comments are love! Noms are adored!
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You can see all 120 icons (SPN, movies, celebs, requests), plus two headers and a wallpaper here at![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-community.gif)
momentofglee.
I have seriously got to start posting smaller batches. :|
spn_fridayfive!
1. How did you first hear about SPN? And when did you start watching?
I'd heard about it vaguely during the first half of the first season. I'd heard of "Wincest" but nothing more than that, really, and wasn't even sure if we got the show up here in Canada on our channels. When I was home over Christmas break of 2005 I caught most of 1x05 "Bloody Mary" and thought it was a pretty cool show. I wanted to try and catch it when it was on back at school but the weird time I knew it was on (Saturday at 6pm on Space, then) prevented me from catching it again. I saw it... somewhere at a place that will remain.... nameless and managed to get the pilot episode dled.
Thursday, February 9th 2006 I watched the pilot episode and by the end of the episode, with Sammy's words, "We've got work to do." I was BEYOND hooked. Queer as Folk had been over since may of 2005 and I was despertaly hanging onto that fandom because I had nowhere else to go. I was afraid of losing the people I chatted with, people to hang out with online, and it made me sad to see people leave the QaF fandom because they had somewhere to go and I didn't. And then SPN came along and BAM! I became a "dirty fandom dumper" as![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
minorfourth called me. But then I dragged her into SPN with me and all was well. The (very long) end.
2. We all have our squee-moments over Jared and Jensen. Post your absolute favourite (one only!) picture of the two.
Probably this one:
Because I remember seeing this when I was just dipping my toe into the show (and diving headlong into fandom) and feeling my heart clench and my whole body getting tingly. There's just something about their smiles, Jared's cheeks and wide smile and his KNUCKLES and the way he's just draped all over Jensen that send me over the edge.
3. Which character would you least like to wake up next to without being able to remember how you got there?
Oh god. Probably.... the demon? Because then there's the possibility that you're waking up after a year or more of having your body being taken over by his "children". Or hell, him. It. Whatever. And losing that kind of control is terrifying.
4. Your favourite brotherly quote so far?
"Only he gets to call me that." That might not even be my favourite but it definitely stands out (and I didn't even watch 2x03 tonight!). It was the ultimate.
5. There are a lot of shippers in this fandom, as well as quite a few non-shippers. What is your view on Wincest?
mcfeste actually asked me about this and why I ship them last week so this is probably as good a time as any to talk all this out, if only for myself.
I guess... there's just something about them. And it's not because Jared and Jensen play them and secretly we allknow hope they're schtupping in their trailers between each and every scene. It's more than that and that probably DOES have to do with who's playing the characters but not BECAUSE of them. Jared and Jensen have amazing chemistry that just flows out of everything they do. They're friends offscreen and you can just TELL which makes their onscreen relationship that much richer.
But it definitely goes beyond that. The very nature of the show- two main characters, two brothers, lots of tension, lots of unresolved issues. There are litterally MILLIONS of scenarios you can envision for these characters being in (Wincest or not) because there's so much unsaid about their past, where they've been, who they've met and what they did way back when. We know enough to make their past rich and colourful but not the specifics and that's where the fans can go crazy, creating a past for them. And that's where the only two main characters comes in, as well. When there are only two people on screen 85% of the time, odds are someone, somewhere is going to mush them toegther.
Again, it goes beyond that. The tension I was mentioning- Sam and Dean are conflicted. They have more issues and unresolved anger between them in the pilot episode than miles the Impala can drive. Freud would probably have a permanent hard on over these boys. Sam and Dean were obviously so close growing up. They didn't have anyone else. They couldn't play like normal kids, couldn't make friends like other people did, were always on the go and always on the defensive. They could trust each other. John was often away hunting and the boys had to grow up fast. It all adds up to a lot of situations where Sam and Dean would have explored things on their own but together. Dean showing Sam and that could extend to... MANY things.
Perhaps if I had been in the fandom from the very beginning, before attachments were made and the lines were drawn in the sand I would have gone in a different direction with my shipping. But it still adds up to two boys, alone but together, for a vast majority of the time. There's so much hidden information and history and canon that there's no way you can't just wonder about things. I also came from a gay fandom- literally. Queer as Folk was all gay, all the time. I have been shipping male/male since Buffy (Angel/Spike) and I guess it was only natural for me to continue the pattern. If there had been a constant female presence in the show perhaps that would have changed because I do support het relationships in other shows (Gwen/Owen on Torchwood, Veronica/Weevil on Veronica Mars) but they are secondary to the slash relationships. Well, in Vmars it's more of a wistful hope because I love badboys. And the Gwen/Owen relationship has clearly been doomed from the start (even though it's SO GOOD). But in TW I also get all hot and bothered over the male/male relationships.
No matter what fandom you're in some people are going to find a way to make two characters get together who other people will flip their lids over. I'm sure in the L Word fandom there's a contigent of people who like to match the lesbians up with men just for kicks. Just like there were people who liked to try and turn the guys of QaF into heteros.
This is actually something I've been thinking about and mulling over for over a week now, since I posted this short film about two brothers who fall in love. It made me wonder about fandom versus real life incest. It's made me think hard about where I stand on the issue of incest. Is it always totally wrong? Is it okay to think about in fandom when the characters are made up the actors go home to their (presumably) normal lives every day and leave the people they play behind? And is it a double standard to think one thing about one and something else for the other? I don't know how I'd react to hearing about a real life case of incest. It would depend on the situation and the elements involved. I've always defended certain relationships (ie- glbt) on the argument that love is love and you can't stop it. Is it any different for relationships between two brothers or two sisters? What about a brother and a sister? Does it change then only because there's a risk of reproduction in those cases?
Now that I've over-thought, over-analysed and pretty much sucked all of the fun out of this- I have to say that putting all the heavy stuff aside- I like Sam and Dean as Sam/Dean because of everything that's not said between them. There's so much backstory and canon for us to play around and tinker with and the chemistry between Jared and Jensen makes it easy for me to believe that there could be something more there. They love each other so much as brothers that it's easy enough to take that love to the next level. But I totally understand why other people are against it, some more than others. But for me it's just one of those things I'm going to indulge myself in for as long as possible because I can.
That got really freaking long. So long, in fact, that I have to go to bed ASAP because I have an interview for a job in seven hours! At a tiling place! Who knows, this could be my destiny! *snort*
Check out the icons!
Samples:
You can see all 120 icons (SPN, movies, celebs, requests), plus two headers and a wallpaper here at
momentofglee.I have seriously got to start posting smaller batches. :|
spn_fridayfive!1. How did you first hear about SPN? And when did you start watching?
I'd heard about it vaguely during the first half of the first season. I'd heard of "Wincest" but nothing more than that, really, and wasn't even sure if we got the show up here in Canada on our channels. When I was home over Christmas break of 2005 I caught most of 1x05 "Bloody Mary" and thought it was a pretty cool show. I wanted to try and catch it when it was on back at school but the weird time I knew it was on (Saturday at 6pm on Space, then) prevented me from catching it again. I saw it... somewhere at a place that will remain.... nameless and managed to get the pilot episode dled.
Thursday, February 9th 2006 I watched the pilot episode and by the end of the episode, with Sammy's words, "We've got work to do." I was BEYOND hooked. Queer as Folk had been over since may of 2005 and I was despertaly hanging onto that fandom because I had nowhere else to go. I was afraid of losing the people I chatted with, people to hang out with online, and it made me sad to see people leave the QaF fandom because they had somewhere to go and I didn't. And then SPN came along and BAM! I became a "dirty fandom dumper" as
minorfourth called me. But then I dragged her into SPN with me and all was well. The (very long) end.2. We all have our squee-moments over Jared and Jensen. Post your absolute favourite (one only!) picture of the two.
Probably this one:
Because I remember seeing this when I was just dipping my toe into the show (and diving headlong into fandom) and feeling my heart clench and my whole body getting tingly. There's just something about their smiles, Jared's cheeks and wide smile and his KNUCKLES and the way he's just draped all over Jensen that send me over the edge.
3. Which character would you least like to wake up next to without being able to remember how you got there?
Oh god. Probably.... the demon? Because then there's the possibility that you're waking up after a year or more of having your body being taken over by his "children". Or hell, him. It. Whatever. And losing that kind of control is terrifying.
4. Your favourite brotherly quote so far?
"Only he gets to call me that." That might not even be my favourite but it definitely stands out (and I didn't even watch 2x03 tonight!). It was the ultimate.
5. There are a lot of shippers in this fandom, as well as quite a few non-shippers. What is your view on Wincest?
mcfeste actually asked me about this and why I ship them last week so this is probably as good a time as any to talk all this out, if only for myself.I guess... there's just something about them. And it's not because Jared and Jensen play them and secretly we all
But it definitely goes beyond that. The very nature of the show- two main characters, two brothers, lots of tension, lots of unresolved issues. There are litterally MILLIONS of scenarios you can envision for these characters being in (Wincest or not) because there's so much unsaid about their past, where they've been, who they've met and what they did way back when. We know enough to make their past rich and colourful but not the specifics and that's where the fans can go crazy, creating a past for them. And that's where the only two main characters comes in, as well. When there are only two people on screen 85% of the time, odds are someone, somewhere is going to mush them toegther.
Again, it goes beyond that. The tension I was mentioning- Sam and Dean are conflicted. They have more issues and unresolved anger between them in the pilot episode than miles the Impala can drive. Freud would probably have a permanent hard on over these boys. Sam and Dean were obviously so close growing up. They didn't have anyone else. They couldn't play like normal kids, couldn't make friends like other people did, were always on the go and always on the defensive. They could trust each other. John was often away hunting and the boys had to grow up fast. It all adds up to a lot of situations where Sam and Dean would have explored things on their own but together. Dean showing Sam and that could extend to... MANY things.
Perhaps if I had been in the fandom from the very beginning, before attachments were made and the lines were drawn in the sand I would have gone in a different direction with my shipping. But it still adds up to two boys, alone but together, for a vast majority of the time. There's so much hidden information and history and canon that there's no way you can't just wonder about things. I also came from a gay fandom- literally. Queer as Folk was all gay, all the time. I have been shipping male/male since Buffy (Angel/Spike) and I guess it was only natural for me to continue the pattern. If there had been a constant female presence in the show perhaps that would have changed because I do support het relationships in other shows (Gwen/Owen on Torchwood, Veronica/Weevil on Veronica Mars) but they are secondary to the slash relationships. Well, in Vmars it's more of a wistful hope because I love badboys. And the Gwen/Owen relationship has clearly been doomed from the start (even though it's SO GOOD). But in TW I also get all hot and bothered over the male/male relationships.
No matter what fandom you're in some people are going to find a way to make two characters get together who other people will flip their lids over. I'm sure in the L Word fandom there's a contigent of people who like to match the lesbians up with men just for kicks. Just like there were people who liked to try and turn the guys of QaF into heteros.
This is actually something I've been thinking about and mulling over for over a week now, since I posted this short film about two brothers who fall in love. It made me wonder about fandom versus real life incest. It's made me think hard about where I stand on the issue of incest. Is it always totally wrong? Is it okay to think about in fandom when the characters are made up the actors go home to their (presumably) normal lives every day and leave the people they play behind? And is it a double standard to think one thing about one and something else for the other? I don't know how I'd react to hearing about a real life case of incest. It would depend on the situation and the elements involved. I've always defended certain relationships (ie- glbt) on the argument that love is love and you can't stop it. Is it any different for relationships between two brothers or two sisters? What about a brother and a sister? Does it change then only because there's a risk of reproduction in those cases?
Now that I've over-thought, over-analysed and pretty much sucked all of the fun out of this- I have to say that putting all the heavy stuff aside- I like Sam and Dean as Sam/Dean because of everything that's not said between them. There's so much backstory and canon for us to play around and tinker with and the chemistry between Jared and Jensen makes it easy for me to believe that there could be something more there. They love each other so much as brothers that it's easy enough to take that love to the next level. But I totally understand why other people are against it, some more than others. But for me it's just one of those things I'm going to indulge myself in for as long as possible because I can.
That got really freaking long. So long, in fact, that I have to go to bed ASAP because I have an interview for a job in seven hours! At a tiling place! Who knows, this could be my destiny! *snort*
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