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I don't really know what to say about tonight's episode. I was tired watching it the first time and I'm totally exhausted right now. But this is what I have to say I believe the girl at the bar (Jo?) is Sam and Dean's (or just Dean's, if I continue with my thoughts of last week that Sam's fahter is the demon) sister. There was just too much going on there for there not to be something. The way the mother was avoidy and how she reacted to John's death and Jo's story about her father dying and so forth.
I can see all this leading to one huge emotional breakdown for Dean. If things follow like this he'll have lost his mom (which caused his family first beliefs in the first place), his brother and then his dad because John told him whatever he told him before he kicked it. So if Sam ISN'T his full brother than that's going to be a huge thing for him. Not that I think it will matter in the end of things (not think, know). Dean will always see Sam as his brother no matter what, unless something along the way makes him lose his faith in Sam and their relationship. But then if he found out that this chick who he wants to mack on is actually his sister? That's harsh. If she IS she yeah, would be more family for him. But John would have betrayed him then. He would have kept this whole other life a secret.
That's providing John even knew that she was his daughter, if she is, but it's JOHN. There isn't much he DIDN'T know. But yeah. I think if it did come out that she's Dean's sister I have a hunch that as soon as it was revealed she would kick it somehow. I don't know why or have absolutely ANY proof for that statement (SPOILERPHOBE!) but that's just the way things seem to go in Supernatural land.
So yeah. Big things happening there. I don't know if I like the character of Jo yet or not but I can tell you right now that I don't like Alona Tal (sp?). I don't know what it is and I don't have a huge hatred for her, I just don't really like her or enjoy her as an actress. This goes back to her role on Veronica Mars. I just... there's something about her. I'm sure she's very nice in RL but I don't particularly want to see her on my tv screen on a semi-permanent basis, if that's how her role turns out.
I felt that the dealing of the grief throughout the episode was unbalanced. Like it hadn't been properly ironed out how things were going to proceed. Maybe that's the way it's supposed to feel- very unfinished and up in the air and totally rocky and that would be fine. But to me it felt a little unpolished. But then again, I'm REALLY tired right now.
Last week I said that I didn't think there would be anymore "Hell House" episodes any time soon due to the heavy subject matter but this episode was really, really funny (Sam letting Dean dig his own grave when he was talking to the "blind" man, Dean making Sam sit in the wacky chair in the office). There was the banter between Sam and Dean, funny lines, sarcasm and jokes- it was an interesting balance there. It really is a testament to Jared and Jensen that the script can call for there to be such radical emotion changes for their character (yelling at each other one moment over some really heavy, emotional and life-changing stuff and then getting each other's back the next in a life-threatening scene) and they can do it believably, as if Sam and Dean had their relationship worked out THAT well. And obviously they do but Jared and Jensen make it believable.
The van was a wonderful touch. I was hoping that they'd have to drive around in a neon or something and they'd have to fold themselves into the car each time or something. But this was better. So much better. Not only is it a soccer mom van but it's a budget '90s soccer mom van.
This episode was so much like fanfic I almost peed. From the fixing of the Impala and Dean's refusal to let Sam help because he'd suck at it (which I have a hard time believing just because I'm SURE Sam has some automotive skills from growing up with John and Dean. He could have helped with SOMETHING), the sister thing, the emotional aspects of dealing with John's death, Sam's urgency to get going hunting again and then Dean's questioning of Sam's previous vow to go back to university- all fanfic come to life. I'm not sure if that's what Kripke had envisioned this whole time and there are many, many very gifted ficcers or if he's taking cues from fandom. I don't know how I feel about the latter. It's one thing to put in shout-outs to the fans, inside jokes and things that you'd only get if you were a dedicated fan. But when you start to follow fandom and let them dictate what actually shows up on the screen it takes on a different element and one that isn't necessarily safe or fun. I don't want to have control over what I see on that screen. I want to see Kripke's world through and through because he made it and I am playing in HIS world. Once he (or any other creator/writer/director for that matter) turns their backyard into a public playground they stop having control over their own creation and it becomes this ... monster. Mary Sues suddenly become canon and we're all running around like five year olds.
Maybe I'm taking this too far and thinking when I should be sleeping (I really, really should be) but I just don't want this season or the show to turn into something that reads so much like fanfic I'll feel like I could have done a better job writing it myself so why don't I? That's what crazy HP fans do when they don't like who Harry ends up with in the real books. Down with crazy!
As far as the end goes I can't remember the conversation between them then so I can't really comment on it. But Dean beating the trunk with the golf club? Hi symbol! Him beating on and destroying part of one of the biggest representations in his life of his father's trust him him? That's pretty huge. The car was HUGE in Dean's life and his father gave it to him, trusted him enough to look after it. Then before John died he told Dean this huge secret that he's obviously not supposed to tell Sammy (at least not yet) so now he's left with this huge burden and anger with his father for leaving that on him with no warning. He's lost, unsure who he can trust and what's happening with his life. The purpose in his life is potentially (in his mind although we know differently because otherwise there'd be no show) gone forever and there's something up with Sam (again, still going with the idea that John told Dean that Sam's real father is the demon or definitely something huge about Sam) but he has to keep it all inside. He can't lose the one thing he's got left in his life that's anything normal to him but how normal can it be when he'd hiding something from Sam?
Will he even continue trying to fix the Impala or will he take the chance to get a new car, a fresh start and try to change things? The Impala's got great significance to him and Sam and their family but in the end it was rather tarnished.
On other things: is Sam scared of midgets? Or little people? Dwarfs? I'm not sure I understood the point of that scene where the woman was just staring at Sam and he looked rather terrified, unless she was SUPPOSED to intimicdate him.
I've never been scared of clowns (Cujo scared the piss out of me, not It) but THIS? Creepy. The way the children just invited this creepy ass clown into their homes and took it right to their parents is beyond me. Note to parents: teach your kids NOT to bring fucking clowns home from the fair, mkay?
I'm wondering how long it'll be before Sam's allowed behind the wheel of a vehicle again, too. Not that it was his fault he was sidelined by a semi driven by a demon-possessed trucker, but still. He WAS behind the wheel...
Also, as creepy as it may be I kind of really want an animated clown icon cause a) holy fuck and b) they've got this weird appeal to them. Thankfully my programme capped frame-by-frame (against my wishes, but luckily in the end) so there's lots of cap sequences for that.
And... that was far longer than I anticipated, for off the cuff remarks.
My programme capped almost frame by frame, as I mentioned, so I ended up with over 6700 caps. SIXTY-SEVEN HUNDRED. It took me a while to sort through them, as you can imagine. But here they are, all 2145 of them.
DVD-sized caps are now available for DL here, along with permanent zips and a gallery
* 608x336 caps
* Uploaded to my own personal site.
* Comment and CREDIT if taking/using.
* The biggie- NO HOTLINKING. Don't be a bastard and make me replace my sample caps with a bright and gaudy "I'm a thief, ask me how!" message.
Please leave a comment if you're taking some/all of the caps. It's the nice, polite, NON-douchebaggy thing to do. And even though I love the word douchebag, I really don't want to use it on anyone here. :)
Supernatural 2x02 set 1 (1050 caps ~ 20.7MB) // Supernatural 2x02 set 2 (1095 ~ 26.5MB)





Sammy? This is weird. Stop it.

Your hair is weird too. STOP IT. Seriously, what WERE the hair people thinking when they did that to you?


And then all of fandom had a spontaneous nightmare. "Can't sleep, clown'll eat me."


Dean, I worry about you.


And this would be why I worry. :|

I can see all this leading to one huge emotional breakdown for Dean. If things follow like this he'll have lost his mom (which caused his family first beliefs in the first place), his brother and then his dad because John told him whatever he told him before he kicked it. So if Sam ISN'T his full brother than that's going to be a huge thing for him. Not that I think it will matter in the end of things (not think, know). Dean will always see Sam as his brother no matter what, unless something along the way makes him lose his faith in Sam and their relationship. But then if he found out that this chick who he wants to mack on is actually his sister? That's harsh. If she IS she yeah, would be more family for him. But John would have betrayed him then. He would have kept this whole other life a secret.
That's providing John even knew that she was his daughter, if she is, but it's JOHN. There isn't much he DIDN'T know. But yeah. I think if it did come out that she's Dean's sister I have a hunch that as soon as it was revealed she would kick it somehow. I don't know why or have absolutely ANY proof for that statement (SPOILERPHOBE!) but that's just the way things seem to go in Supernatural land.
So yeah. Big things happening there. I don't know if I like the character of Jo yet or not but I can tell you right now that I don't like Alona Tal (sp?). I don't know what it is and I don't have a huge hatred for her, I just don't really like her or enjoy her as an actress. This goes back to her role on Veronica Mars. I just... there's something about her. I'm sure she's very nice in RL but I don't particularly want to see her on my tv screen on a semi-permanent basis, if that's how her role turns out.
I felt that the dealing of the grief throughout the episode was unbalanced. Like it hadn't been properly ironed out how things were going to proceed. Maybe that's the way it's supposed to feel- very unfinished and up in the air and totally rocky and that would be fine. But to me it felt a little unpolished. But then again, I'm REALLY tired right now.
Last week I said that I didn't think there would be anymore "Hell House" episodes any time soon due to the heavy subject matter but this episode was really, really funny (Sam letting Dean dig his own grave when he was talking to the "blind" man, Dean making Sam sit in the wacky chair in the office). There was the banter between Sam and Dean, funny lines, sarcasm and jokes- it was an interesting balance there. It really is a testament to Jared and Jensen that the script can call for there to be such radical emotion changes for their character (yelling at each other one moment over some really heavy, emotional and life-changing stuff and then getting each other's back the next in a life-threatening scene) and they can do it believably, as if Sam and Dean had their relationship worked out THAT well. And obviously they do but Jared and Jensen make it believable.
The van was a wonderful touch. I was hoping that they'd have to drive around in a neon or something and they'd have to fold themselves into the car each time or something. But this was better. So much better. Not only is it a soccer mom van but it's a budget '90s soccer mom van.
This episode was so much like fanfic I almost peed. From the fixing of the Impala and Dean's refusal to let Sam help because he'd suck at it (which I have a hard time believing just because I'm SURE Sam has some automotive skills from growing up with John and Dean. He could have helped with SOMETHING), the sister thing, the emotional aspects of dealing with John's death, Sam's urgency to get going hunting again and then Dean's questioning of Sam's previous vow to go back to university- all fanfic come to life. I'm not sure if that's what Kripke had envisioned this whole time and there are many, many very gifted ficcers or if he's taking cues from fandom. I don't know how I feel about the latter. It's one thing to put in shout-outs to the fans, inside jokes and things that you'd only get if you were a dedicated fan. But when you start to follow fandom and let them dictate what actually shows up on the screen it takes on a different element and one that isn't necessarily safe or fun. I don't want to have control over what I see on that screen. I want to see Kripke's world through and through because he made it and I am playing in HIS world. Once he (or any other creator/writer/director for that matter) turns their backyard into a public playground they stop having control over their own creation and it becomes this ... monster. Mary Sues suddenly become canon and we're all running around like five year olds.
Maybe I'm taking this too far and thinking when I should be sleeping (I really, really should be) but I just don't want this season or the show to turn into something that reads so much like fanfic I'll feel like I could have done a better job writing it myself so why don't I? That's what crazy HP fans do when they don't like who Harry ends up with in the real books. Down with crazy!
As far as the end goes I can't remember the conversation between them then so I can't really comment on it. But Dean beating the trunk with the golf club? Hi symbol! Him beating on and destroying part of one of the biggest representations in his life of his father's trust him him? That's pretty huge. The car was HUGE in Dean's life and his father gave it to him, trusted him enough to look after it. Then before John died he told Dean this huge secret that he's obviously not supposed to tell Sammy (at least not yet) so now he's left with this huge burden and anger with his father for leaving that on him with no warning. He's lost, unsure who he can trust and what's happening with his life. The purpose in his life is potentially (in his mind although we know differently because otherwise there'd be no show) gone forever and there's something up with Sam (again, still going with the idea that John told Dean that Sam's real father is the demon or definitely something huge about Sam) but he has to keep it all inside. He can't lose the one thing he's got left in his life that's anything normal to him but how normal can it be when he'd hiding something from Sam?
Will he even continue trying to fix the Impala or will he take the chance to get a new car, a fresh start and try to change things? The Impala's got great significance to him and Sam and their family but in the end it was rather tarnished.
On other things: is Sam scared of midgets? Or little people? Dwarfs? I'm not sure I understood the point of that scene where the woman was just staring at Sam and he looked rather terrified, unless she was SUPPOSED to intimicdate him.
I've never been scared of clowns (Cujo scared the piss out of me, not It) but THIS? Creepy. The way the children just invited this creepy ass clown into their homes and took it right to their parents is beyond me. Note to parents: teach your kids NOT to bring fucking clowns home from the fair, mkay?
I'm wondering how long it'll be before Sam's allowed behind the wheel of a vehicle again, too. Not that it was his fault he was sidelined by a semi driven by a demon-possessed trucker, but still. He WAS behind the wheel...
Also, as creepy as it may be I kind of really want an animated clown icon cause a) holy fuck and b) they've got this weird appeal to them. Thankfully my programme capped frame-by-frame (against my wishes, but luckily in the end) so there's lots of cap sequences for that.
And... that was far longer than I anticipated, for off the cuff remarks.
My programme capped almost frame by frame, as I mentioned, so I ended up with over 6700 caps. SIXTY-SEVEN HUNDRED. It took me a while to sort through them, as you can imagine. But here they are, all 2145 of them.
DVD-sized caps are now available for DL here, along with permanent zips and a gallery
* 608x336 caps
* Uploaded to my own personal site.
* Comment and CREDIT if taking/using.
* The biggie- NO HOTLINKING. Don't be a bastard and make me replace my sample caps with a bright and gaudy "I'm a thief, ask me how!" message.
Please leave a comment if you're taking some/all of the caps. It's the nice, polite, NON-douchebaggy thing to do. And even though I love the word douchebag, I really don't want to use it on anyone here. :)
Supernatural 2x02 set 1 (1050 caps ~ 20.7MB) // Supernatural 2x02 set 2 (1095 ~ 26.5MB)





Sammy? This is weird. Stop it.

Your hair is weird too. STOP IT. Seriously, what WERE the hair people thinking when they did that to you?


And then all of fandom had a spontaneous nightmare. "Can't sleep, clown'll eat me."


Dean, I worry about you.


And this would be why I worry. :|

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Date: 2006-10-06 12:49 pm (UTC)I always love reading your personal reviews 'cause they get me thinking about the episode in a way that I would have never thought about. Like the thing with Jo being their sister? Never would have thought of that. I read everything you wrote but I'm too tired right now to actually comment on all of it LOL Maybe next week.. ^^;
Anywho, thanks for the review and the caps!!
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Date: 2006-10-08 05:57 am (UTC)I guess we'll just have to wait and see! Thanks for the comment!
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Date: 2006-10-06 01:11 pm (UTC)And I'm not seeing any real point or benefit to Jo and company. They seemed rather Mary Sue-ish and were providing info/services the boys got on their own in s1. :p
Downloading the caps, btw. :) Thank you.
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Date: 2006-10-08 06:03 am (UTC)As far as Jo and her mother go I'm not sure how I like them so far. Some other people have provided information that goes against my (and other's) theory that Jo is John's daughter but for some reason I still get the feeling like there's something more there with them. Whether that plays out or not obviously remains to be seen.
Thanks for the comment!
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Date: 2006-10-06 01:14 pm (UTC)I still can't get over the ending... goodness. O_O
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Date: 2006-10-06 01:29 pm (UTC)Oh, once again, thanks for the caps! You rock!
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Date: 2006-10-08 06:04 am (UTC)Thanks for the comment!
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Date: 2006-10-06 02:00 pm (UTC)As noted above, unless they've totallly changed their mind about the journals being canonical, Jo's father died when she was 10.
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Date: 2006-10-06 02:14 pm (UTC)She was in a clown suit. (Just no make up) God, that made me laugh so hard... poor Sammy... and then Dean made him sit in the chair... he's such a bastard sometimes! But a hot, sexy bastard *drools*.... *clears throat* Uh, sorry!
Great comments, great caps. The scene where Dean was beating his own car. Oh, man. That look on his face when he was staring at Sam broke me, then he picked up that club and fark...
That ep was great... but I'm really tired and a bit on the sick side so there's not much coherency coming from me.
♥ Alex
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Date: 2006-10-08 06:08 am (UTC)I TOTALLY didn't catch that. I just thought she was poorly dressed when I watched it. *facepalm*
Thanks for the comment!
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Date: 2006-10-06 02:17 pm (UTC)Will credit if I use any.
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Date: 2006-10-06 02:51 pm (UTC)Just wow. Actually the whole episode (at least the emotional episode parts with the guys) was just wow.
I need a new word. Forgives..I don't usually make random comments when I download. But just..wow.
Will also credit if I can actually make something... when I get past "wow".
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Date: 2006-10-06 03:21 pm (UTC)thankyou :D
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